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Refuting the “Gift of Gibberish” Tongues

Dr. Mike Johnston

Charismatics snub correction by claiming those who oppose them do so in ignorance because they haven’t had THE “experience.” That isn’t true here. I understand the spiritual gifts and tongues issue very clearly. I was a practicing Charismatic for the first few years after I was saved (1975) and an avid apologist for the gibberish movement. Since I was a partaker in this experience, I made it my business to ignore any unspiritual oaf trying to correct me with evidence. Frankly, that was easy. I enjoyed very much the special feelings of spirituality that accompanied being a member of what I’d been told was the enlightened few who sought and received the “baptism of the Holy Spirit”. After all, I’d been singled out for a universe of expectation where anything is possible, and the more bizarre the better. Extemporaneous words of knowledge, tongues, and interpretations – even those conflicting with Scripture – flowed constantly from circus like meetings where so called “prophets” stood and almost shouted predictions that were seldom fulfilled.

However, in this “anything is possible” atmosphere, NOTHING was to ever be challenged if it was performed under the “Jesus name tag”.

Then one day, when the inner nagging got the best of me I decided to study spiritual gifts and the Charismatic claims outside of anyone’s influence. My suspicion was corroborated. Here’s what I found.

The Purpose of Tongues

Everything God does is with purpose (Eph. 1:11). Tongues are no different; they were a sign to unbelieving Israel (1 Cor. 1:22; 14:22; see Isa. 28:11-12). My friend, lest we forget, Israel was chosen to herald God’s goodness to the world and Jesus was the promised Messiah of a glorious coming earthly kingdom. However, knowing they would reject Him, the Lord Jesus instituted a parenthetical group known as the church Body of Christ (Romans through Philemon) to carry on His message up until the “fulness of the Gentiles be come in” (Rom. 11:25).

Two facts stand out in the five major passages dealing with tongues (Acts 2; 19:6; 1 Cor. 12, 14; and Mark 16:17): They were always “known languages of the world”, and unbelieving Jews were in view as a sign: Acts 2 tongues are given to validate Peter’s message–Jesus is the Messiah. Acts 10 confirms Gentile salvation which Jews would otherwise reject. Acts 19 validates the conversion of some of John’s disciples. In 1 Corinthians 12-14, they signify Messianic fulfillment to unbelieving Jews attending services at Corinth. Please listen my friend. Nowhere does the Bible state that speaking in tongues is a test of salvation or sanctification as maintained by some groups. While the gospel of John was written specifically to show people how to be saved (John 20:30-31) not one mention of tongues. And while God surely wants all Christians to be spiritually mature, 1 Cor. 12:29-30 clearly implies that not all will speak in tongues. To spin the purpose of tongues in another direction is disingenuous, or worse devious.

The Corinthian Chaos

It’s a bit ironic. Much of what we see passing for spirituality in the church today has been adopted from the antics of the most carnal church in the New Testament: the Corinthians. Paul the converted Rabbi, had become an apostle, missionary, evangelist-church planter preaching and teaching multitudes of Gentiles in multicultural settings (Rom. 11:13).

On his Second Missionary Journey all his skills and gifts were tested when he landed in Corinth for a year and one half. It was the capital of the Greek province of Achaia, located on a narrow isthmus 50 miles west of Athens, and served as the major sea trade route between Asia and Italy. By the time Paul penned his first letter to the church, Corinth was a cosmopolitan melting pot for some 400,000 diverse residents. The Jews had captured the banking industry from the heathen priests which of course brought about a constant influx of Jews into the city where tongues, the sign to unbelieving Jews, were necessary and used extensively to prove God was moving in the Gentile community.

Occult Practices and Ecstatic Utterances

The confusion about tongues in Corinth is easy to understand when you analyze their indigenous make-up. Besides Greeks and Jews, people of all nationalities, languages and dialects lived there or passed through. As a result, Corinth was religiously pluralistic and steeped in idolatry (1 Cor. 12:2) which ultimately morphed into an occult mecca where soothsayers, diviners, and spiritists filled the streets along with 1000 temple prostitutes who facilitated wild orgies at the altar of the sex goddess Aphrodite.

Unintelligible prayer “tongues” was common in the Corinthian community but it is not orthodox or Christian. It is a desperately faulty ruse built upon one verse-1 Cor. 14:14- by practitioners that stubbornly ignore its lack of Scriptural support and occult link. Aside from heretics like Montanus, it was not seen in church until the 1900’s (order New Age Charismatic Corruption).

When the gift of speaking in previously unlearned languages surfaced in Corinth, the reference point for those who heard it was tied to idolatry in two ways: To those who were natives of the area, it sounded like the same old gibberish they heard from occult worshipers at the altar of Aphrodite’s temple. But to Gentile visitors who were ignorant or unsaved it appeared as the ranting of rogue madmen (1 Cor. 14:23). So, in order to maintain authenticity and edification God instituted the gift of interpretation of tongues (1 Cor 12:10, 30; 14:5, 13, 26-28). Let me illustrate.

Let’s suppose you speak French and attend a multi-cultural Jewish-Gentile fellowship. One morning a gentleman across the aisle begins to preach in German which to you sounds like “gibberish.” However, if someone in the congregation can translate that German into French, you will be edified (1 Cor. 14:5, 13)

Conclusion

The gift of tongues is the miraculous ability to preach the gospel in a specific language and dialect previously unknown by the speaker (Acts 2:11). Corinth was the only church that had a problem with it. As you can see, their confusion stemmed from their multicultural worship and long history of occult experiences. Those today claiming that ecstatic utterances are the same tongues we find in the Bible are doing so at the expense of sound exegesis and a long history of orthodox truth. What passes for tongues, interpretation of tongues and the word of knowledge today is linked to soothsaying and divining in Israel (Deut. 18:14). When tongues are studied in context utilizing the recognized laws of hermeneutics and spiritual wisdom, we believe the serious student of Scripture will quickly see how real Biblical tongues explains itself.

 

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Right Division leads to right conclusions. The Rapture is for the church Body, the Revelation is for Israel

Dr. Mike Johnston

When the Bible is rightly divided, proper conclusions are reached. This is predicated on the fact that Israel and the church are not the same. In fact, they are as different as heaven and earth (Gen. 1:1), and mystery and prophecy; each with separate programs governing them (Rom. 16:25; Acts 3:21).

Israel is God’s elect earthly NATION (Deut. 7:6; Isa. 45:4). She exists from prophecy spoken in “time past” by the mouth of the prophets “since the world began” (Luke 1:70; Acts 3:21; see Matt. 25:34). Bear in mind, prophecy enhances or explains events surrounding earth, and Israel’s divine appointment to earth’s destiny, featuring the King and His Kingdom. It is Israel to whom God’s prophets presented five covenants guiding and guaranteeing her future on earth, including a lineage, land, laws, and a Lord – King – that began with Abraham and will continue through the Millennium. It is for Israel that the earthly kingdom was “prepared from the foundation of the world” (Matt. 25:34) and through whom the Messiah was born and to whom He was presented, rejected, and yet one day will return to fulfill the Lord’s prophetic prayer, “thy kingdom come, thy will be done, in earth…” (Matt. 6:10). It is to Israel the Lord Jesus explained this Davidic Covenant Kingdom will be inaugurated following His visible Revelation in Jerusalem (Matt. 24; see Zech. 14; Rev. 1:7; 19:11-21) “immediately after the tribulation” (Matt. 24:21, 29).

The church, on the other hand, is a heavenly BODY (Eph. 1:3; 2:6) with an inheritance in heaven. We therefore have no sustaining purpose on earth (study Eph. 1-3; Col. 3:1-6). We exist as a mystery “kept secret since the world began” (Rom. 16:25), given to Paul alone by our heavenly risen Lord Jesus Christ (Eph. 1:20) in a personal post ascension revelation (Rom. 16:25; Gal. 1:12; Eph. 3:1-9). Currently the church occupies a temporary position on earth during Israel’s hiatus between Daniel’s 69th and 70th week (Dan. 9:24-27) to provoke her to jealousy (Rom. 11:11), “until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in” (Rom. 11:25). The heavenly Body of Christ was unknown to any of the prophets (Rom. 16:25; Col. 1:26) and therefore was never included in their earth-centered prophecies featuring Israel’s Davidic Kingdom, and tribulation (“Jacob’s trouble” – Jer. 30:7) preceding it. Here’s what this means:

While we can easily find Israel and the anti-Semitic Gentile nations on earth during the tribulation – aka “the time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jer. 30:7; Dan. 12:1), the heavenly Body of Christ – which has been promised deliverance from this divine punishment (1 Thess. 1:10; 5:9; 2 Thess. 2:5-7; Rev. 3:10; see also Rev. 4:1) – is conspicuously absent (Rev. 6-19). In fact, if the Body of Christ (church) is present on earth during Israel’s seven-year tribulation (Deut. 4:30; Isa. 24; Jer. 30-31; Joel; Zephaniah; Matt. 24; Rev. 6-19), the Holy Spirit went to great lengths to keep us from knowing it. To wit, there isn’t a verse anywhere in the Bible unequivocally placing the Body of Christ on earth for a single moment of Israel’s trouble without redefining the words “saints” and “elect” and “disciple(s)” which in Daniel, the Olivet Discourse and Revelation specifically refer to Israel.

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Grievous Wolves

December 17, 2017 Leave a comment

Acts 20:28-29 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

A hungry wolf spotted a lamb drinking from a stream, and decided to make a meal of it. First though, he thought he should have a reason for devouring it. “Little lamb, why are you muddying the water I’m drinking?”

The lamb replied, “Oh no, sir, that can’t be. I am downstream from where you are drinking.”

Undeterred, the wolf snarled, “Well, then why did you call me bad names this time last year?”

To which the lamb replied, “That can’t be; I am only six months old.”

Angrily, the wolf said, “Well if it wasn’t you, it was your father,” and fell upon the lamb.

With his last breath the lamb bleated out, “Any excuse will suit a tyrant.”

The New Testament refers to people who attempt to infiltrate and pick off members of the Body of Christ as “grievous wolves.” The Apostle Paul warned the church that wolves would come in and would not spare the flock. Any excuse would suit them.

Those who wander away from the Good Shepherd, those who are out on the fringes – they are the ones who will be easy for the wolves to pick off.

Christian, where are you? Are you wandering out on the edges, flirting with the world? Does the grass seem greener in other pastures? Beware, for the wolves are lurking. You would do well to stay close to the protection of the Good Shepherd.

Shared from Dr. Jim Scudder Jr.’s Devotionals

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LATTER DAYS: Persia Prophecy Preparation

November 27, 2017 Leave a comment

My good friend, Bill Salus, published a book a few years back that continues to hold my fascination. The title is NUCLEAR SHOWDOWN IN IRAN: The Ancient Prophecy of Elam. He presented a thorough treatment of a topic few, if any, writers about Bible prophecy have, to my knowledge, explored in recent times. Today’s news headlines are […]

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Difficult Passages…Matthew Chapter 7

October 20, 2017 Leave a comment

Dr. Ted Horton

There are several passages in Scripture that have proven to be difficult for people over the years.  Some of these passages are often pulled out of context or simply misinterpreted and used to promote false doctrine.  One such example that I have seen come up several times in the last couple of weeks is Matthew chapter 7, verses 21-23.  The verses in question read as follows, Matthew 7:21-23, “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.  22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”

I will give you a couple examples of how I have seen this brief portion of Scripture mishandled in the last several weeks.  The first was in a meme that shared only verse 23 and stated, “Jesus didn’t tell them to depart from Him because they kept the law, but because they were law breakers.”  Also, there was a young lady arguing that salvation could be lost.  This was one of the places that she went to.  She believed the text showed that the people were Christian because of their good works, yet Christ was rejecting them; hence, they had lost their eternal salvation.

Let’s take a look at what is going on in this story and what is really being said.

Matthew 7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.  Here Jesus makes the profound statement that not everyone who calls Him Lord will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.  That word Lord is the Greek kurios, and means:  supreme in authority; controller; by implication Mr. (as a respectful title): – God, Lord, master, Sir.  Jesus says that it is not enough to simply recognize His Lordship, as many teach today.  There are well known preachers and televangelists who teach that to be saved you must make Jesus the Lord and Master of your life; this simply is not true and is illustrated here by Jesus’ own words.  You can be saved and make Him your Lord and Master, but simply making Him Lord and Master is not what saves as evidenced by His words that “not everyone” who calls Him Lord will be saved.  At the end of that statement we find the word “but.”  But is a great word.  It is a coordinating conjunction that shows contrast.  When we see or hear the word but, we know that what is coming next is about to be totally different from what we just heard.  Jesus told us that not everyone who acknowledges His Lordship will be saved, but. . .  Now He is about to tell us who will be saved.  He says, “but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.”  Okay.  Great.  To go to Heaven we simply have to do the will of God the Father.  So just what is that?  We have to look no further than the Gospel of John to find that answer.  In John 6:40 we read, “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”  Matthew 7:21; John 6:40 and the rest of the Bible teach to be saved that we must believe on Christ.   Acts 16:30-31, “And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?  31  And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.”

Matthew 7:22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  Jesus is foretelling that there will be many who stand before Him in judgment that are surprised to find that they will not be entering Heaven.  They try to justify their worthiness of Heaven by the good works that they performed in life.  Look at this impressive list.  1.)  Prophesied (or preached) in Jesus’ name.  2.)  Cast out devils in Jesus’ name.  3.)  Performed many wonderful works in Jesus’ name.  I find it interesting that in this impressive list of accomplishments that not one of them says, “Lord, I believed (trusted) on you as my only hope of Heaven,” or, “Jesus, I put my faith in you as my Saviour to get me into Heaven.”  It’s also interesting to note that Jesus doesn’t disagree with anything that they claimed.  However, everything that they listed as a reason to be saved was something that they had done.  What does God think of our works, no matter how good they may be?  Isaiah 64:6 says, “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags.”  No matter how hard we may try, we simply cannot atone for our sins.  Ephesians 2:8-9 says, “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:  9  Not of works, lest any man should boast.”  We have no part in our salvation; all that we can do is place our faith in Jesus and His finished work on the cross.  Romans 4:4-5, “Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.  5  But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

Matthew 7:23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.  Jesus doesn’t dispute or deny the boasts made by these men.  In fact, today we see many professing Christians who are claiming Jesus as Lord, and are in fact, doing many great works in His name.  But no amount of good work, in Jesus’ name or otherwise, will merit your entrance into Heaven.  Jesus didn’t say that they hadn’t done all of the many wonderful works that they claimed, but He did say to them, “I never knew you.”  It’s important to note that He says He never knew them.  He didn’t say He used to know them and now He doesn’t or that He forgot about them; He says He never knew them.  This is important because it proves that these weren’t people who were saved and then lost their salvation.  These were people who were never saved and tried to get into Heaven by working their way in.  Jesus called those people who had done these many wonderful works, “ye that work iniquity.”  Their great works were worth as much as lawless works of iniquity.

Matthew 7:21-23 is not a story about people who were saved and lost their salvation, not is it a story about people who were cast into hell because they didn’t keep the law.  This is a story about people trusting in their good works to save them.  Good works will never save you and they will not keep you saved.   Philippians 3:9 says, “And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.”  When you trust Christ as Saviour, His payment is put to your account and you are given His righteousness; you go to Heaven on what He did.  Trust Him alone as your only hope of Heaven today.

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INFO ON ISMS

 

Dr. Mike Johnston and Dr. Ted Horton, Editors

ADVENTISM- cult teachings of Ellen G. White aka Seventh Day Adventism [1]
AGNOSTICISM- comes from the Latin word ignoramus, meaning “one who is ignorant.” Agnostics deny adequate evidence either proving or disproving the existence of God (Psalm 19:1; Rom. 1:20).
ASCETICISM- denial of pleasure in an attempt to please or pacify God (Matt. 23:4; Col. 2:20-22).
ATHEISM- a denial that there is a God, and a refusal to entertain any proof otherwise; fools (Psalm 14:1).
BRANHAMISM- belief system held by William Branham,  an anti-Semitic mid-20th century anti-Trinitarian Charismatic clairvoyant  who held city-wide “healing” revivals featuring occult practices (divination; kundalini).
NOTE: Charismatics often hail him as a church father.
BUDDHISM- an offshoot of Hinduism that began with the Buddha (enlightened one) around the 5th century BC in India.  Buddhism contains influences from Brahmanism, gods, and goddesses.  This -ism teaches a universal cosmic consciousness that is nonpersonal.  Man creates his own suffering in this life and his fate is determined by Karma and carried out by reincarnation.  Salvation occurs by the works of following Buddha’s teachings, ultimately entering Nirvana, or the place where the self is extinguished in the Void of the cosmic consciousness.
CATHOLICISM- cult Romanist Church including popery, blasphemy, and idolatry (Matt. 23:4-12).[2]
COMMUNISM- atheist totalitarian form of government whereby money and possessions are forcibly gathered and distributed by a government perceived to be the final sovereign authority over mankind.
CREATIONISM- belief system based upon Gen. 1:1: in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
DEISM- originated in England in the early 17th century as a rejection of orthodox Christianity. Deists asserted that reason could find evidence of God in nature and that God had created the world and then left it to operate under the natural laws he had devised (Psalm 14:1; Rom. 1:20).
EPICURIANISM- is a system of hedonist philosophy based upon the teachings of Epicurus (c340-c270 BC), who taught that pleasure is the highest good and ideal in life (Ecc. 2:1-10; Acts 17:8; Rom. 1:18-32).
EXISTENTIALISM- a 19th century philosophy that elevates subjective human experience (emotions, beliefs, etc) above objective (matter, creation, Scripture) for living in and dealing with a hostile and highly indifferent universe.
FASCISM- founded by Italian nationalists during WWI as socioeconomic suppression of any opposition through controlled terror, censorship, racism, and a aggregate policy of belligerence and dictatorial nationalism.
FATALISM- a belief that events are pre-fixed rendering human powerless to change them.
FUNDAMENTALISM (Christian)- strict adherence to specific Christian doctrines typically in opposition to the encroaching theology of Modernism. The term “fundamentalism” was originally coined in the 20th century to describe a specific body of doctrine that ultimately developed into a movement within the US Christian community.
HEDONISM- pleasure is happiness and thus becomes man’s ultimate goal (Rom. 1:18-32).
HUMANISM- an atheistic system whereby man is worshiped as the central focus of the universe and thus becomes the subject of all human enterprise.
JUDAISM- monotheistic religion of the Jews, tracing its origins to Abraham and having its spiritual and ethical principles embodied chiefly in the Hebrew Scriptures and the Talmud- all foundational to New Testament Christianity. Today Jews making aliyah to Israel await the rebuilding of the Temple and the coming of the Messiah to establish His promised 1000 year earthly reign in Jerusalem.
LEGALISM-
LIBERALISM- a paradoxical philosophy claiming tolerance to anything except Christianity. Sadducees were liberals (Matt. 16:6; 22:23; Acts 23:8).
MATERIALISM- acquiring things is the highest good for man; covetousness is idolatry (Col. 3:5; see also Mark 7:22; Rom. 1:29; Eph. 5:3).
MODERNISM- unholy penchant to modernize Christianity by removing and or replacing the ancient landmarks (Psalm 11:3; Prov. 22:28). Antithesis of FUNDAMENTALISM.
MONASTICISM- the works based religious practice of renouncing all worldly pursuits in order to fully devote one’s life to spiritual work.
MONOTHEISM- one who believes there is only one god [Christians, also Jews, Moslems, etc].
MYSTICISM- religious beliefs and practices that go beyond the liturgical and devotional forms of worship of mainstream faith, often by seeking out inner or esoteric meanings of conventional religious doctrine, and by engaging in spiritual practices such as breathing practices, prayer, contemplation and meditation, along with chanting and other activities designed to heighten spiritual awareness. Many facets of mysticism are now endorsed and practiced by Latter Rain leaders and member from the Charismatic movement.
OCCULTISM- Many facets of occulticism are now endorsed and practiced by Latter Rain leaders and Charismatic movement (ie, divination via words of knowledge, tongues, interpretation of tongues; necromancy; levitation; astral projection; bi-locations; slain in the spirit-kundalini; shamanism, and more).
PANTHEISM- god is intrinsically indentified with plants and animals, god is all and all is god (Deut 6:4; 1 John 5:7).
PENTECOSTALISM (includes Charismatics and the Latter Rain Movement)- denomination teaching extra-biblical messages through tongues, dreams, and visions, that places a heavy emphasis on miraculous healings and special “word of knowledge” messages and fosters a prosperity gospel.  The Pentecostal movement ignores biblical instruction and ordains women pastors and preachers, while teaching a works based salvation and denying the eternal security of the believer.
PLATONISM- the true world is actually the invisible world consisting of ideas and thoughts.
PLURALISM- religio-political system seeking the amalgamation of all diverse groups regardless of their belief or lifestyle.
POLYTHEISM- one who believes in many gods which are omnipotent and omniscient.
RELATIVISM- it doesn’t matter what you believe as long as you believe something and you feel its right for you, although it may not be right for someone else it is for you.
ROMANISM- see Catholicism
RUSSELLISM- blasphemous cult teachings of Charles Taze Russell aka as Jehovah’s Witnesses. [3]
SCIENTISM- the belief that science has the answers for our philosophical needs or  social problems.
SECULARISM- the view that religious considerations should be excluded from civil affairs or public education.
SOCIALISM- A system in which the means of producing and distributing goods are owned collectively under the auspices of the government. Forms the base for dictatorial control in Marxist-Leninist theory.
SPIRITICISM- belief in the existence of spirits – non-physical beings that live in the invisible or spirit world – and the ability of communication between these spirits and living people through mediumship. Many facets of spiriticism are now endorsed and practiced by Latter Rain leaders and member from the Charismatic movement.
STOISM- reason is the highest good, people are unaffected by pleasure and pain.
THEISM- is the belief there is a god a creator, both beyond and within the world who can intervene supernaturally. a creator and sustainer who sovereignly controls the world, that all things find their meaning and substance in this being.
[1] For more information, write for our tract: The Damnable Heresies of the Seventh Day Adventists
[2] For more information, write for our tract: Romanism Heresies
[3] For more information, write for our tract: The Damnable Heresies of the Jehovah’s Witnesses

 

 

 

[1] For more information, write for our tract: The Damnable Heresies of the Seventh Day Adventists

[2] For more information, write for our tract: Romanism Heresies

[3] For more information, write for our tract: The Damnable Heresies of the Jehovah’s Witnesses

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Is Salvation Really Free?

I saw a post on Facebook just the other night that read “Noah wasn’t saved by grace, he was saved because he obeyed.”  The author of that statement went on to say that we must trust Christ as Saviour AND work to say saved.  He then went on to dust off the old familiar chestnut, “faith without works is dead.”  Well, is salvation by faith or is it by works?  Is it by a combination of the two?  Just what is really meant by the oft repeated, yet seldom understood, “faith without works is dead?”  We will try to gain some insight into these questions below.

First, let’s look at the statement, “Noah wasn’t saved by grace, he was saved because he obeyed.”  What type of salvation are we talking about specifically?  Genesis 6:8 reads, “But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.”  So scripturally speaking, this post has already found contradiction.  If the writer was referring to soul salvation, he was most definitely wrong.  God only saves sinners on the basis of grace.  Regardless of dispensation, salvation is by grace through faith.  If, and this is a big if, because most posters of this meme use it to support a works based salvation, he was referring to temporal salvation, then he could be correct.  Had Noah disobeyed God and not built an ark, he would have been washed away in the flood; hence, he would not have been saved (physically).  Often times in the life of a Christian when we do not obey God we are not saved from the consequences of the sinful choices that we make.  This does not mean that we are not saved (soul-salvation, saved from hell, etc.).  Saved and salvation can refer to a physical or temporal salvation, and it can also refer to the standing of our eternal soul when we trust Christ as Saviour.  We must look for context.  The people of Nineveh who believed Jonah’s message were saved eternally and by the king’s decree the entire city repented, and changed their wicked ways and were saved physically (Jonah 3:10  And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.).

The next question to answer is the charge that we are saved by grace and works, or by grace and then we work to stay saved. Romans 11:6 says, “And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.”  This means that it is one or the other; grace and works are mutually exclusive.  An old friend of mine used to say this verse is akin to saying that if it is nighttime outside your window, then it can’t also be daytime outside your window.  If you are saved by grace then you CANNOT be saved by works, works cannot play any part in the salvation.  The inverse is true also:  if you are saved by works then grace cannot play any part in the salvation.  So, since Scripture plainly says that it has to be one or the other, which is it?  Ephesians 2:8-9 says, “8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:  9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.”  There will not be one person in Heaven who deserves to be there, or who will be able to say that they helped God out in any way, shape, or form in their getting to Heaven.  Someone out there, right now, is saying, “Ooh, ooh, but what about Ephesians 2:10?  What about that?  It says you have to do good works.  What about that?”  Let’s take a look at what it says.  Ephesians 2:10 says, “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”  Ephesians 2:8-10 is a progression.  Verses 8 and 9 deal with us getting saved and then verse 10 is after we are saved.  Notice this is talking about Christians as Paul says we and includes himself in the group.  Christians are God’s workmanship and are made to do good works.

Finally, we will look at the statement, “faith without works is dead.”  James 2:17 reads, “Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.”  James 2:14 says, “What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?”  We have to ask the question, “save him from what?”  If a person has faith in Christ as Saviour, can that faith save him from going to hell, then the answer is yes.  If a person has no good works and is trusting in his faith alone to earn him rewards in Heaven, will his faith save him from chastisement, then the answer is no.  Remember, James was written to believers.  The context of James shows us that he is speaking of believers at the Judgment Seat of Christ.  Notice James 2:12, “So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.”  This could only be referring to the judgment of believers at the Judgment Seat of Christ.  In James 2:14 we find no believer will be saved (exempted) from the believer’s judgment of works.  No works will bring about no reward (profit).  James speaks of justification by works before men.  Paul speaks of justification by faith before God.  Dr. C. I. Scofield makes the following observation in the Scofield Bible:   “These are two aspects of one truth. Paul speaks of that which justifies man before God, namely: faith alone, wholly apart from works; James of the proof before men, that he who professes to have justifying faith really has it. Paul speaks of what God sees — faith; James of what men see — works, as the visible evidence of faith. Paul draws his illustration from (Gen_15:6) James from (Gen_22:1-19). James’ key phrase is “ye see” (Jam_2:24) for men cannot see faith except as manifested through works.”  James himself teaches salvation by faith when he says in chapter 2 and verse 23 “And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.”  James goes on to teach that years later he demonstrated that faith by obeying God in offering up Isaac.

Jesus finished the work of salvation on the cross.  We can be saved only by trusting His finished work.  Why not trust Christ as your only hope of Heaven?  Then, once that is settled, choose to serve Him and receive blessings, rewards, treasures in Heaven, profit for eternity.

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